{"id":227,"date":"2018-01-30T11:56:36","date_gmt":"2018-01-30T10:56:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/?p=227"},"modified":"2018-07-06T10:37:29","modified_gmt":"2018-07-06T08:37:29","slug":"dear-tim","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/dear-tim\/","title":{"rendered":"Dear Tim"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Update to this story at 20 Feb 2018: I&#8217;ve been debugging the problem together with Apple and I feel like we are closing in on a solution. My current guess is that Finder indexing needs a lot more time on High Sierra than on Sierra clients.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Update to this story at 6 July 2018: I&#8217;ve been asked by Apple to verify and can confirm that OSX Mojave Beta no longer has this problem.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Dear Tim,<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;re into video archival here, and we like what we do.<\/p>\n<p>For about 30 years, we&#8217;ve been digitizing, storing and collecting Video-Based Artworks, documentaries and short films for preservation to our future generations.<br \/>\nBeautiful stuff. Sometimes edgy, sometimes important, sometimes weird&#8230;<br \/>\nWe&#8217;re talking artists like Vito Acconci, Nam June Paik, Wolf Vostell, Lawrence Weiner, Jef Cornelis, Johan Grimonprez, Steve Reinke, Walid Ra&#8217;ad, Jordi Colomer, Beatrice Gibson, Hans Op de Beeck, Emily Vey Duke &#038; Cooper Battersby, Julia Meltzer &#038; David Thorne, Manon de Boer and many others. <\/p>\n<p>Historically, we&#8217;ve used a lot of Apple OSX products, even invested in Xserve RAID&#8217;s and Final Cut Servers at a time ;-)<\/p>\n<p>And I have one particular server that we have loved for a long time.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s the one that holds our video files.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/Screen-shot-2018-01-30-at-09.45.18.png\" alt=\"server\" \/><\/p>\n<p>It sits safely in a small server room.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s back-upped to a large dual LTO Library + Off-site backup in a Bank Vault!<br \/>\nAnd it has a bunch of 10G Ethernet interfaces!<br \/>\nAnd it has some ATTO ExpressSAS interfaces to connect it to 7 RAID6 arrays!<br \/>\nAnd we use Apple&#8217;s AFP (Apple Filing Protocol), easily reaching just over 100MB\/s transfer speeds on plain CAT6 cables.<br \/>\nAnd it doesn&#8217;t even sweat under load!<\/p>\n<p>We love it! It&#8217;s lightweight and all our video editors, annotators, archive ingest people and media library visitors can use it simultaneously without much hassle.<\/p>\n<p><strong>But we use AFP&#8230;<\/strong> <\/p>\n<p>And since our OSX clients in the office, media library and editing studios started upgrading to High Sierra, they can&#8217;t search for files on these shares anymore.<\/p>\n<p><em>Let that sink in. They. can&#8217;t. search. files. anymore.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>I admit, it took me a while to even consider the clients to be the problem.<\/p>\n<p>Surely Apple wouldn&#8217;t break AFP support on it&#8217;s clients?<br \/>\nSurely Apple knows some institutes still use AFP servers, right?<\/p>\n<p>So thank you, Apple, for your advice when I called and opened a support ticket for this issue.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Why don&#8217;t you upgrade the server, sir?&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\nBecause you don&#8217;t sell any hardware that holds ATTO cards and 10G Ethernet cards any more.<br \/>\n<em>&#8220;Why don&#8217;t you reformat the drives to AFPS?&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\nYou&#8217;re asking me to reformat 300TB?<br \/>\n<em>&#8220;Can you use SMB filesharing?&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\nYes, but it&#8217;s only half as fast. And searching doesn&#8217;t work either (https:\/\/discussions.apple.com\/thread\/8103236)&#8221;<br \/>\n<em>&#8220;I see, let me connect you to my colleague&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\n&#8230;<br \/>\nThe colleague:<br \/>\n<em>&#8220;I advise you to hold off the upgrades to High Sierra&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\nYou&#8217;re telling me NOT to upgrade?<br \/>\n<em>&#8220;Yes&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\n&#8230;<br \/>\nBy mail:<br \/>\n<em>&#8220;As discussed over the phone, i will informed the engineers that we have received your call and that you are experiencing the same kind issue that has already been reported to us.&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\n&#8230;<br \/>\n<em>&#8220;I have yet to receive any updates on this case and the progress that it\u2019s made.&#8221;<\/em><br \/>\n&#8230;<br \/>\n<em>&#8220;The latest update that i have available is: No available workarounds at the moment&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I switched to Mac about 10 years ago and loved how BSD-like it was.<br \/>\nHardware was solid and things just worked.<br \/>\nOSX Server was easy and pretty solid.<br \/>\nSince then, I&#8217;ve seen a steady decline in quality and connectivity.<br \/>\nAt a time, I ordered a batch of 6 iMacs for our MediaLibrary for a total of 3 times.<br \/>\nThe oldest 6 from 2007 still run fine (iMac7,1), the second batch had one that broke down (iMac10,1) and the last batch has only 3 left standing (iMac11,2).<br \/>\nNowadays, I purchase iMac18,2&#8217;s to realize it has no thunderbolt2 but the black bin MacPro&#8217;s in our studios have 6 of them! Go Figure.<br \/>\nAs for software, Apple&#8217;s Final Cut was a household name before in this sector, now people (myself included) prefer Adobe Premiere since it &#8220;feels more like the original Final Cut&#8221;  <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In 2010, an artist called Herman Asselberghs made a video wherein one sees the meticulous dissection of a brand new MacBook Pro.<br \/>\nI used to watch this work in horror when I needed to quality control it in our video archive, it felt really bad seeing this beautiful piece a machinery being slowly disassembled.<br \/>\nNowadays, I enjoy watching it.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/v2.nl\/archive\/works\/dear-steve\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-content\/uploads\/leadImage_large-300x169.jpg\"\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Anyway,<br \/>\nI&#8217;m writing this on a Mac Pro (Mid 2010) and I still love it.<br \/>\nPlease let me keep it.<br \/>\nPlease don&#8217;t break anything anymore.<br \/>\nPlease fix AFP searching in High Sierra as well.<\/p>\n<p>With kindest regards,<br \/>\nBram<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update to this story at 20 Feb 2018: I&#8217;ve been debugging the problem together with Apple and I feel like we are closing in on a solution. My current guess is that Finder indexing needs a lot more time on High Sierra than on Sierra clients. Update to this story at 6 July 2018: I&#8217;ve [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7,4,1,9],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-227","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-final-cut","category-macosx","category-misc","category-unixlinuxbsd"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/227","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=227"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/227\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":245,"href":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/227\/revisions\/245"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=227"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=227"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.idoru.be\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=227"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}